t458 wrote:Where I live I get to see quite a few Latinos loitering about for work. Wouldn't be surprised if some of them are illegals. But most of them look harmless to me.
Who needs to cite objective statistics when we have thorough expert field reports like this
t458 wrote:If only they could be all registered, and given some basic preventive healthcare.
Not only does your virtue and compassion show in your willingness to accept unchecked immigration, but also in your desire to spend other people's money to give these individuals free stuff!
Open borders. The welfare state. Pick one or the other. The left is trying to have both, and that's not sustainable.
Personally, I don't think a border wall offers a very good return on investment. It's a government project, so it will take at least twice as long to build as expected, and cost at least 2-3 times as much as budgeted. Future presidential candidates would run on a platform of abandoning its maintenance or tearing it down. Plus walls keep people in as much as they keep people out. I don't see it getting built anyway. If anything, put up a continuous chain link fence with barbed wire and electronic surveillance. This is achievable and more in line with what the border patrol actually wants.
I would rather focus on streamlining legal immigration and dismantling the welfare state, the magnet that draws a lot of immigrants here. If we didn't have birthright citizenship, free/subsidized housing, free schooling, food stamps, utility subsidies, public transportation subsidies, and dozens of other handout programs that reward not working, that would mean the immigrants risking their lives to get here are coming here to work and establish a new life on their own merit, not just to take advantage of the welfare state. There are plenty of immigrants who come here, work hard, and mind their own business. But there are also plenty who come here, leech off the system, and complain that it isn't enough. The latter disparage the image of the former.
We also have plenty of homegrown reliefers and generational welfare families. Real, significant, meaningful welfare reform would help with a lot of problems.