Introducing FakeBullion.com

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Postby escher » Fri Aug 10, 2018

natsb88 wrote:This whole conversation could have been discussed in PMs instead of junking up this thread ;)

So sorry, I sent a PM instead.

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Postby BotanicusRex » Thu Aug 23, 2018

eBay 1 oz. AGE fakes:

Showing up offering eBay bucks - don't bite
Lists as Unc... pics are of fake proofs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/113216756191
http://www.ebay.com/itm/113216639037
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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Postby natsb88 » Thu Aug 23, 2018

BotanicusRex wrote:eBay 1 oz. AGE fakes:

Showing up offering eBay bucks - don't bite
Lists as Unc... pics are of fake proofs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/113216756191
http://www.ebay.com/itm/113216639037

eBay reporting thread is over here: viewtopic.php?f=68&t=30659

I will forward these to the eBay contact :thumbup:

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Postby BotanicusRex » Thu Aug 23, 2018

got it.. thanks
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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Postby Rik Bitter » Mon Dec 03, 2018

These schmoes need to talk to Nate. He's miles ahead of them already with fakebullion.com.

(Temecula, California) November 29, 2018 — The Anti-Counterfeiting Task Force (ACTF) accomplished major victories combatting fakes and educating the public about counterfeits in the marketplace in 2018, according to ACTF Coordinator Beth Deisher. She envisions continued success in 2019 following the recent major reorganization of the group’s parent organization, the Anti-Counterfeiting Educational Foundation (ACEF).


http://news.coinupdate.com/png-leaders-step-up-fight-against-fakes-with-anti-counterfeiting-educational-foundation/
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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Postby natsb88 » Mon Dec 03, 2018

Rik Bitter wrote:These schmoes need to talk to Nate. He's miles ahead of them already with fakebullion.com.

(Temecula, California) November 29, 2018 — The Anti-Counterfeiting Task Force (ACTF) accomplished major victories combatting fakes and educating the public about counterfeits in the marketplace in 2018, according to ACTF Coordinator Beth Deisher. She envisions continued success in 2019 following the recent major reorganization of the group’s parent organization, the Anti-Counterfeiting Educational Foundation (ACEF).


http://news.coinupdate.com/png-leaders-step-up-fight-against-fakes-with-anti-counterfeiting-educational-foundation/

I have been in touch with a few members of this group. They are more focused on law enforcement education/assistance and working with the big manufacturers and grading companies on trademark enforcement. They help arrange expert witnesses for counterfeit/fraud cases and they've helped take down a few larger importers of counterfeit coins. They have worked with CBP on checking imports and with the Secret Service on reclassifying US gold and silver coins to be valued by metal content rather than face value, which dramatically increases the documented value of counterfeit fraud cases and makes them a higher priority with more serious charges. They also assist with some educational exhibits at coin shows and educational seminars for law enforcement.

They have expressed interest in working together, but so far really only via me attending meetings / coin shows or being available as a witness. I have a day (and night and weekend) job and I'm not in a position to take the time (or sacrifice the income and incur the expenses) of traveling. Plus I just don't like traveling :lol: . So I will continue the bottom-up approach, trying to reach dealers and stackers and collectors directly with information on identifying fakes, while they continue the top-down approach to try to slow the importation of counterfeits and catch and punish those who fraudulently sell them. I think the two strategies complement each other.


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