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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018
by natsb88
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Silver, gold American Eagles most counterfeited bullion coins

A new survey conducted by the Anti-Counterfeiting Task Force (ACTF) indicates the popular U.S. bullion coins are now leaders in a category their manufacturer would rather not be in — the most frequently encountered bullion coin counterfeits.

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018
by grantwoodisgold
i've said it before and i'll say it again:

thank you nate for your hard work :clap:

this thread always scares me :x

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018
by MaxGravy
grantwoodisgold wrote:i've said it before and i'll say it again:

thank you nate for your hard work :clap:

this thread always scares me :x


And every stacker here should consider a membership or donation to fakebullion.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018
by Mother lode
Outstanding job. You are an inspiration to us all. Instead of crying about a problem. You are fixing it!
Thank you sir. :clap:

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018
by natsb88
MaxGravy wrote:
grantwoodisgold wrote:i've said it before and i'll say it again:

thank you nate for your hard work :clap:

this thread always scares me :x


And every stacker here should consider a membership or donation to fakebullion.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

So far in 2018 it has cost me ~$1200 to operate FakeBullion.com and I have received ~$600 in donations and affiliate revenue, so you can do the math :lol: I don't pay myself out of that either, I get $0/hour for FakeBullion.com work, and there's plenty to do. I scanned 15 fakes this evening, coming soon to the Fake Bullion Database :geek:

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018
by RLNcoinbuyer
natsb88 wrote:I scanned 15 fakes this evening, coming soon to the Fake Bullion Database :geek:


Nat, where do you get the fakes from?

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018
by natsb88
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Seller of Counterfeit NGC Holders Brought to Justice

Numismatic Guaranty Corporation® (NGC®) reports that a seller of counterfeit coins in counterfeit NGC holders has pleaded guilty to importing counterfeit coins and bars into the United States. The charge carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018
by natsb88
Four items added to the Fake Bullion Database in the last three days.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018
by natsb88
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Chinese online firm offering counterfeit holder ‘starter kits’

A Chinese online distributor of counterfeit United States coins is now offering what amount to “starter kits” of counterfeit Professional Coin Grading Service holders with fake grading labels.

PCGS President Don Willis said little can be done legally to combat the counterfeiting until the material hits American soil.

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018
by natsb88
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Special ACTF Exhibit of Counterfeit Coins, Bars at ANA Word’s Fair of Money

The Industry Council for Tangible Assets Anti-Counterfeiting Task Force will exhibit a five-case display of counterfeit coins, precious metals bars, and grading holders during the American Numismatic Association’s World’s Fair of Money Aug. 14-18 at the Pennsylvania Convention Center in Philadelphia.

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018
by GtiKyle
Wow.. did not know this site existed. Thank you for all your hard work. I'm going to do some studying to protect myself. Thank you thank you.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018
by natsb88
A total of 8 new items were added to the Fake Bullion Database in July. Active donors can access new items right away. Non-donors have to wait until the entries go public after 60 days.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018
by natsb88
Here is some newer counterfeit Perth gold. These are severely under weight, simple to identify with a scale. Will be wanting to borrow genuine items to do comparisons if anybody happens to have some.

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Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018
by escher
Those last ones look laughably fake compared to Perth's real gold buttons. It's embarrassing that Chinese products are synonymous with fakery and dishonesty when it comes to precious metals.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018
by escher
natsb88 wrote:
MaxGravy wrote:So far in 2018 it has cost me ~$1200 to operate FakeBullion.com and I have received ~$600 in donations and affiliate revenue, so you can do the math :lol: I don't pay myself out of that either, I get $0/hour for FakeBullion.com work, and there's plenty to do. I scanned 15 fakes this evening, coming soon to the Fake Bullion Database :geek:


Out of curiosity Nate, what's the cause of the expense? It can't be servers or the domain - do you have to buy a lot of fakes or pay a lot of postage fees?

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018
by escher
natsb88 wrote:Chinese online firm offering counterfeit holder ‘starter kits’

A Chinese online distributor of counterfeit United States coins is now offering what amount to “starter kits” of counterfeit Professional Coin Grading Service holders with fake grading labels.

PCGS President Don Willis said little can be done legally to combat the counterfeiting until the material hits American soil.

Click for more.


This is a national embarrassment. Pure dishonesty.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018
by Purple and Gold
escher wrote:
natsb88 wrote:Chinese online firm offering counterfeit holder ‘starter kits’

A Chinese online distributor of counterfeit United States coins is now offering what amount to “starter kits” of counterfeit Professional Coin Grading Service holders with fake grading labels.

PCGS President Don Willis said little can be done legally to combat the counterfeiting until the material hits American soil.

Click for more.


This is a national embarrassment. Pure dishonesty.


They could potentially bring down the whole market, its scary

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018
by natsb88
escher wrote:
natsb88 wrote:
MaxGravy wrote:So far in 2018 it has cost me ~$1200 to operate FakeBullion.com and I have received ~$600 in donations and affiliate revenue, so you can do the math :lol: I don't pay myself out of that either, I get $0/hour for FakeBullion.com work, and there's plenty to do. I scanned 15 fakes this evening, coming soon to the Fake Bullion Database :geek:


Out of curiosity Nate, what's the cause of the expense? It can't be servers or the domain - do you have to buy a lot of fakes or pay a lot of postage fees?

I don't use cheap $5/month shared hosting. I use cloud-based hosting with separate database and image hosting services that are all scalable. I maintain multiple domain names and an SSL certificate.

The site is built on an open-source CMS but uses a lot of paid commercial plug-ins. Most only include updates for a set period of time, then I have to renew the subscription to continue to receive plug-in updates as the main CMS package is updated.

I pay an annual fee for a registered agent for the business entity and a monthly E&O insurance premium. This feels like throwing money down a hole but is necessary these days.

The above account for the bulk of expenses.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018
by escher
natsb88 wrote:
escher wrote:
natsb88 wrote:
MaxGravy wrote:So far in 2018 it has cost me ~$1200 to operate FakeBullion.com and I have received ~$600 in donations and affiliate revenue, so you can do the math :lol: I don't pay myself out of that either, I get $0/hour for FakeBullion.com work, and there's plenty to do. I scanned 15 fakes this evening, coming soon to the Fake Bullion Database :geek:


Out of curiosity Nate, what's the cause of the expense? It can't be servers or the domain - do you have to buy a lot of fakes or pay a lot of postage fees?

I don't use cheap $5/month shared hosting. I use cloud-based hosting with separate database and image hosting services that are all scalable. I maintain multiple domain names and an SSL certificate.

The site is built on an open-source CMS but uses a lot of paid commercial plug-ins. Most only include updates for a set period of time, then I have to renew the subscription to continue to receive plug-in updates as the main CMS package is updated.

I pay an annual fee for a registered agent for the business entity and a monthly E&O insurance premium. This feels like throwing money down a hole but is necessary these days.

The above account for the bulk of expenses.


Understood regarding CMS & licensing, less so regarding SSL & hosting. I do this professionally, and it still sounds like your costs are double what they could be. PM me if you want to discuss.

Re: Introducing FakeBullion.com

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018
by natsb88
escher wrote:Understood regarding CMS & licensing, less so regarding SSL & hosting. I do this professionally, and it still sounds like your costs are double what they could be.

How do you know my costs are double what they could be, when you don't even know what my costs are, or my usage? :? The hosting costs are very reasonable for what I'm doing. Compliance and insurance costs more than hosting. Now if you could cut those in half, you'd have my attention :lol:

escher wrote:PM me if you want to discuss.

This whole conversation could have been discussed in PMs instead of junking up this thread ;)