Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

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What determines Numismatic vs. Modern Numismatic?

1986 and later
5
20%
1964 and earlier
13
52%
Only have one thread
7
28%
 
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Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby DRP270 » Fri May 11, 2018

I was asking around and realized there is no certainty on what defines Modern Numismatic as opposed to Numismatic in the two Numismatic B/S threads. I came up with two options 1) 1964 and earlier to capture better condition/date 90% to include Morgan dollars, 2) 1986 and later so ASE, AGE and Popular Perth material are captured this way. And then I thought that with change from one-month to two-week listings the number of offerings has dropped so maybe there is no reason, for now at least, to have two threads and just rely on 2X spot to determine if an item is Numismatic.

Your thoughts please to include other criteria to split Numismatic and Modern Numismatic.

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I will end this poll when we have a decision. You may change your vote as comments come in.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby Mr. Ed » Fri May 11, 2018

I agree that 1964 and earlier would work, and I also agree the 1986 and later is not the answer due to the special 90% coins that were minted for whatever reason. I think that twice spot works well is the best answer.



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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby toddler81 » Fri May 11, 2018

I don't do much in the numi thread, but when I'm there, I usually see older stuff. I think 2 threads works well and it should stay that way. I'm more interested in the modern stuff right now and don't want to get distracted by the other... squirrel!
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby silverhead » Fri May 11, 2018

To me those are good cutoff dates, but I could think of a few exceptions that might fall in the cracks like early Libertads pre 1987. Maybe some poured bars that aren't dated but could be made during either period for example. Double the value is a good barometer though. Either of the current numi is kind of the "graveyards" of listings, they don't get looked at as much as Gold and silver forums.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby SilverStatic » Fri May 11, 2018

1 numismatics thread would work for me.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby dae2dae » Fri May 11, 2018

silverhead wrote:To me those are good cutoff dates, but I could think of a few exceptions that might fall in the cracks like early Libertads pre 1987. Maybe some poured bars that aren't dated but could be made during either period for example. Double the value is a good barometer though. Either of the current numi is kind of the "graveyards" of listings, they don't get looked at as much as Gold and silver forums.

that's strange, I've bought from both several times this year.
keep it separate I'd say. not everyone is even interested in both and would likely stop looking at the bst if constantly having to scroll through items that hold no interest. e.g. looking for an overpriced morgan and seeing only perth, or looking for lunar 2 and only seeing g$1 1843 o's in au58
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby fredzoyt » Fri May 11, 2018

Two separate threads works for me too. Under Numi's I'm always expecting old stuff, Modern-Numi's I'm not expecting old stuff. I say the distinction is good.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby Shortstack McAygee » Fri May 11, 2018

What the Jester said a couple posts above.

Two very different collector-categories.


Note of interest? Currently, NGC defines "modern" as 1955 to present... While PCGS says 1965 to present.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby Yellek » Fri May 11, 2018

I like having 2 threads. I have very little interest in the modern stuff and don't want to have to wade through to find the old coins.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby fredzoyt » Fri May 11, 2018

Hey, since I was born before 1964 does that make me numi? 8-)
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby bigjohn » Sat May 12, 2018

fredzoyt wrote:Hey, since I was born before 1964 does that make me numi? 8-)

Only if you get yourself graded by PCGS. Just be sure and not get a “details” tag, most wouldn’t sound all that good ;)
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby Rik Bitter » Sat May 12, 2018

bigjohn wrote:
fredzoyt wrote:Hey, since I was born before 1964 does that make me numi? 8-)

Only if you get yourself graded by PCGS. Just be sure and not get a “details” tag, most wouldn’t sound all that good ;)


I dunno. I'd kind of hope he'd get the "cleaned" designation. I tend to avoid people with "patina".
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby silverhead » Sat May 12, 2018

Yellek wrote:I like having 2 threads. I have very little interest in the modern stuff and don't want to have to wade through to find the old coins.



Yeah, what he said, and some of those modern numi listings are frighteningly long too :shock: :shock:
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby bigjohn » Sat May 12, 2018

Rik Bitter wrote:
bigjohn wrote:
fredzoyt wrote:Hey, since I was born before 1964 does that make me numi? 8-)

Only if you get yourself graded by PCGS. Just be sure and not get a “details” tag, most wouldn’t sound all that good ;)


I dunno. I'd kind of hope he'd get the "cleaned" designation. I tend to avoid people with "patina".

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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby Verbane » Sat May 12, 2018

Yellek wrote:I like having 2 threads. I have very little interest in the modern stuff and don't want to have to wade through to find the old coins.


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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby blevdawgAg47 » Sun May 13, 2018

I'd consider the modern numismatic era to start in the early 80's with the introduction of govt bullion such as Libs and Pandas, and later, ML's and ASE's. I don't see the need for 2 threads, but it might be helpful for the seller to put it in the subject line if it's modern numi.
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby BotanicusRex » Sun May 13, 2018

Just for the hellovit....

Basically, numismatics is the study of coinage. Any coin could be considered "numismatic".

Time: Pre-33, Post-33
Type: Government bullion, Government circulation, Non-government bullion
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Re: Numismatic vs Modern Numismatic

Postby DRP270 » Mon May 28, 2018

Any more comments before we decide what to do?
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