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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby tdtwedt » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Americans Are Gobbling Up Fake Meat and Milk Faster Than Ever


Americans can’t seem to get enough imitation meat and milk these days.

Sales of substitutes to replace all types of animal products are up, and now comprise a $3.7 billion dollar market, according to data from Nielsen released Wednesday.

For example, imitation meat made from plants increased 23 percent in the year through Aug. 11 to $684 million. About an eighth of all milk bought in stores isn’t from a cow, but rather from plants. Non-dairy yogurts, cheeses and ice cream are soaring, rising 40 percent and more.

By comparison, retail food sales generally is growing at 2 percent.


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Postby Brick's » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Yea, well, it's healthier to eat more plants and less animals products. You can pull a copy of Back to Eden by Jethro Kloss 1939 for some great basis knowledge. Over 3 generations ago people were figuring it out. Switching over to almond milk is easy and it helps out our almond growers now that China has tariffs on them. That is, if you don't mind sending your money to CA?
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Postby Purple and Gold » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Brick's wrote:Yea, well, it's healthier to eat more plants and less animals products. You can pull a copy of Back to Eden by Jethro Kloss 1939 for some great basis knowledge. Over 3 generations ago people were figuring it out. Switching over to almond milk is easy and it helps out our almond growers now that China has tariffs on them. That is, if you don't mind sending your money to CA?


Almond milk is pretty good. Bought some on sale yesterday and it was actually cheaper than cows milk. Not sure why but It had a slight chocolate taste. I dont like the coconut milk so much.
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby iratebob » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Inevitably, the guy who eats right, gets 8 hours of sleep, exercises daily and lives a clean life is the guy who get hit by a bus!!

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

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tdtwedt wrote:Americans Are Gobbling Up Fake Meat and Milk Faster Than Ever


Americans can’t seem to get enough imitation meat and milk these days.

Sales of substitutes to replace all types of animal products are up, and now comprise a $3.7 billion dollar market, according to data from Nielsen released Wednesday.

For example, imitation meat made from plants increased 23 percent in the year through Aug. 11 to $684 million. About an eighth of all milk bought in stores isn’t from a cow, but rather from plants. Non-dairy yogurts, cheeses and ice cream are soaring, rising 40 percent and more.

By comparison, retail food sales generally is growing at 2 percent.


https://www.bloombergquint.com/business ... gs.2K6RzkM


I haven't found any really good fake meats, but I am hoping this one gets cheaper (it's supposed to be pretty close to the real thing, but it's over $13 including fries!):

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https://www.tgifridays.com/menu/burgers ... eeseburger

Has anyone tried non-dairy ice cream and want to share an opinion?

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

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jcz1 wrote:
tdtwedt wrote:Americans Are Gobbling Up Fake Meat and Milk Faster Than Ever


Americans can’t seem to get enough imitation meat and milk these days.

Sales of substitutes to replace all types of animal products are up, and now comprise a $3.7 billion dollar market, according to data from Nielsen released Wednesday.

For example, imitation meat made from plants increased 23 percent in the year through Aug. 11 to $684 million. About an eighth of all milk bought in stores isn’t from a cow, but rather from plants. Non-dairy yogurts, cheeses and ice cream are soaring, rising 40 percent and more.

By comparison, retail food sales generally is growing at 2 percent.


https://www.bloombergquint.com/business ... gs.2K6RzkM


I haven't found any really good fake meats, but I am hoping this one gets cheaper (it's supposed to be pretty close to the real thing, but it's over $13 including fries!):

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https://www.tgifridays.com/menu/burgers ... eeseburger

Has anyone tried non-dairy ice cream and want to share an opinion?

yes non dairy ice cream taste just like regular ice cream only complaint not as many flavors to pick from and cost more
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Just eat meat and be done with it
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

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jcz1 wrote:
highroller4321 wrote:
Why do you ask? Thinking about switching?


What I'm looking for right now is any first-hand opinions from those who have tried one or more of the many frozen grocery-store options, from brands such as Morningstar Farms, LightLife, and others in the Veggie/Vegan marketplace.


Been a vegetarian (like my cheese too much to ever be a vegan) for the past 30 years. Just ate Morningstar Buffalo Wings and Sausage Patties for lunch. I've been eating Morningstar products for many years. I like LightLife hot dogs too; great with spicy mustard. :thumbup:

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Country wrote:
jcz1 wrote:
highroller4321 wrote:
Why do you ask? Thinking about switching?


What I'm looking for right now is any first-hand opinions from those who have tried one or more of the many frozen grocery-store options, from brands such as Morningstar Farms, LightLife, and others in the Veggie/Vegan marketplace.


Been a vegetarian (like my cheese too much to ever be a vegan) for the past 30 years. Just ate Morningstar Buffalo Wings and Sausage Patties for lunch. I've been eating Morningstar products for many years. I like LightLife hot dogs too; great with spicy mustard. :thumbup:


why no point in fake meat. Its all moderation
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby Country » Thu Sep 13, 2018

How about this? How likely will you be to get colon cancer as a carnivore? If you're young, you probably don't care. Do you hunt for meat, or do you buy it in the grocery store where meat is loaded with chemicals just to make it look red and fresh killed? All that grocery meat sits in your colon for days; takes awhile to digest doesn't it? Do you like colonoscopies? I'll stick with my Morningstar stuff.

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Reduce risk of the No. 1 killer – Heart Disease

Vegetarian diets are naturally lower in saturated fat, and cholesterol, and higher in plant nutrients than most meat-based diets. Vegetarians have been shown to have a 24% lower risk of dying of heart disease than non-vegetarians. New Harvard research has shown high consumption of red meat and heme iron may increase the risk of heart disease by 50% amongst diabetics. World-renowned physician Dr. Dean Ornish found that patients on a low-fat vegetarian diet actually reversed coronary heart disease.

Cancer prevention

“Studies have shown that significant reduction in cancer risk among those who avoided meat…Meat is devoid of fiber and other nutrients that have a protective effect. Meat also contains animal protein, saturated fat, and, in some cases, carcinogenic compounds such as heterocyclic amines (HCA) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH) formed during the processing or cooking of meat. HCAs, formed as meat is cooked at high temperatures, and PAHs, formed during the burning of organic substances, are believed to increase cancer risk. In addition, the high fat content of meat and other animal products increases hormone production, thus increasing the risk of hormone-related cancers such as breast and prostate cancer….Vegetarian diets and diets rich in high-fiber plant foods such as whole grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits offer a measure of protection.” Local Hawaii legend Ruth Heidrich is another great example of the power of a vegetarian diet. Following the advice of Dr. John McDougall, Ruth switched to a vegetarian diet after she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Ruth not only overcame the cancer, she went on to become an award-winning, record-breaking triathlete. She tells her incredible story in the best-selling book, "A Race for Life."

Lose excess weight and keep it off

On average, vegetarians tend to be slimmer than meat eaters. Obesity rate in the general public is extremely high, while in vegetarians, obesity rate only ranges from zero to six percent. A vegetarian diet low in fat and rich in vegetables, fruits, whole grains and legumes accompanied with daily exercise is the perfect formula for healthy weight loss.

Live longer, slow the aging process

A 12-year Oxford study published in the British Medical Journal found that vegetarians outlive meat eaters by six years. Plant-based diets are generally rich in fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, vitamins and minerals, which in turn strengthens the immune system and slows down the aging process.

Avoid toxic food contaminants

Flesh foods are loaded with dangerous poisons and contaminants such as hormones, herbicides and pesticides, and antibiotics. As these toxins are all fat-soluble, they concentrate in the fatty flesh of the animals. Not to mention the viruses, bacteria and parasites such as salmonella, trichinella and other worms, and toxoplasmosis parasites.

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Country wrote:How about this? How likely will you be to get colon cancer as a carnivore? If you're young, you probably don't care. Do you hunt for meat, or do you buy it in the grocery store where meat is loaded with chemicals just to make it look red and fresh killed? All that grocery meat sits in your colon for days; takes awhile to digest doesn't it? Do you like colonoscopies? I'll stick with my Morningstar stuff.


had colonoscopie already no issues cant gain weight and beat cancer 3 years ago
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby Purple and Gold » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Who knows what to believe? This came out yesterday that " Consuming dairy products has been linked to lower mortality rates and lower rates of cardiovascular disease, according to a study published today in The Lancet."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/milk-body ... d=57755524
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Postby Country » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Purple and Gold wrote:
Brick's wrote:Yea, well, it's healthier to eat more plants and less animals products. You can pull a copy of Back to Eden by Jethro Kloss 1939 for some great basis knowledge. Over 3 generations ago people were figuring it out. Switching over to almond milk is easy and it helps out our almond growers now that China has tariffs on them. That is, if you don't mind sending your money to CA?


Almond milk is pretty good. Bought some on sale yesterday and it was actually cheaper than cows milk. Not sure why but It had a slight chocolate taste. I dont like the coconut milk so much.


I have it everyday with my morning cereal. Tastes great, and almonds are good for you without the cholesterol that eventually blocks your arteries when you get older.

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby Country » Thu Sep 13, 2018

Purple and Gold wrote:Who knows what to believe? This came out yesterday that " Consuming dairy products has been linked to lower mortality rates and lower rates of cardiovascular disease, according to a study published today in The Lancet."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/milk-body ... d=57755524


Be willing to bet this study was financed or promoted by the daily industry. :?

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Postby tdtwedt » Wed Sep 19, 2018

'Vegan Mondays' coming to Berkeley after new resolution passed

Berkeley residents may soon be asking themselves, where's the beef?

The city council just passed a resolution requiring vegan food be served at city events and meetings once a week.


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Postby MaryB » Wed Sep 19, 2018

Or eat grass fed organic beef like I do that is actually good for you! My pork is also raised on pasture and is organic. So is the chicken I buy...

Country wrote:MORE

Reduce risk of the No. 1 killer – Heart Disease

Vegetarian diets are naturally lower in saturated fat, and cholesterol, and higher in plant nutrients than most meat-based diets. Vegetarians have been shown to have a 24% lower risk of dying of heart disease than non-vegetarians. New Harvard research has shown high consumption of red meat and heme iron may increase the risk of heart disease by 50% amongst diabetics. World-renowned physician Dr. Dean Ornish found that patients on a low-fat vegetarian diet actually reversed coronary heart disease.

Cancer prevention

“Studies have shown that significant reduction in cancer risk among those who avoided meat…Meat is devoid of fiber and other nutrients that have a protective effect. Meat also contains animal protein, saturated fat, and, in some cases, carcinogenic compounds such as heterocyclic amines (HCA) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH) formed during the processing or cooking of meat. HCAs, formed as meat is cooked at high temperatures, and PAHs, formed during the burning of organic substances, are believed to increase cancer risk. In addition, the high fat content of meat and other animal products increases hormone production, thus increasing the risk of hormone-related cancers such as breast and prostate cancer….Vegetarian diets and diets rich in high-fiber plant foods such as whole grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits offer a measure of protection.” Local Hawaii legend Ruth Heidrich is another great example of the power of a vegetarian diet. Following the advice of Dr. John McDougall, Ruth switched to a vegetarian diet after she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Ruth not only overcame the cancer, she went on to become an award-winning, record-breaking triathlete. She tells her incredible story in the best-selling book, "A Race for Life."

Lose excess weight and keep it off

On average, vegetarians tend to be slimmer than meat eaters. Obesity rate in the general public is extremely high, while in vegetarians, obesity rate only ranges from zero to six percent. A vegetarian diet low in fat and rich in vegetables, fruits, whole grains and legumes accompanied with daily exercise is the perfect formula for healthy weight loss.

Live longer, slow the aging process

A 12-year Oxford study published in the British Medical Journal found that vegetarians outlive meat eaters by six years. Plant-based diets are generally rich in fiber, phytonutrients, antioxidants, vitamins and minerals, which in turn strengthens the immune system and slows down the aging process.

Avoid toxic food contaminants

Flesh foods are loaded with dangerous poisons and contaminants such as hormones, herbicides and pesticides, and antibiotics. As these toxins are all fat-soluble, they concentrate in the fatty flesh of the animals. Not to mention the viruses, bacteria and parasites such as salmonella, trichinella and other worms, and toxoplasmosis parasites.

It's your choice.

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Postby Super Stacker PCB » Wed Sep 19, 2018

I think everything in moderation is okay. Vegan, vegetarian or meat eaters can all be healthy. Moderation and regular exercise is the key. The problem we have now is excess. When we go out to restaurant’s our meals are huge, when we cook at home we tend to go back for seconds and then the snacking in between. Once we can start learning to eat in moderation and do regular exersize then I think we could lower our obesity rate.

The other problem is trade skills are going away. Everyone is now working on their butt in front of a computer. They sit in their car, they take the elevator and then they sit at their desk. Repeat the same all week. I used to be a commercial roofer for 13 years and it didn’t matter what I ate, or how much I ate, I would work off every bit of it before the next meal. Now that I am off the roof and in front of the computer, I had to adjust my meals from the amount I was taking in. Eating the same foods (yes meat and lots of it) just less of it, regular exercise and my last check up was all good, clean bill of health. No weight gain either, actually loss a few pounds.
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby Purple and Gold » Wed Sep 19, 2018

I think we have gotten into a pattern of we have to have 3 meals a day, whether we are hungry or not. I understand breakfast when you wake up but Its 12:00 got to get lunch, 6 pm got to have dinner, 10 pm bedtime snack :P
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