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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby silverpv » Wed Sep 18, 2019

Brick's wrote:
silverpv wrote:<snip> Way better than being constantly medicated but giving up gluttony is hard.


Way to tell it like it is. Gratz BTW, on everything before the <snip>.


Thank you..

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby tdtwedt » Wed Oct 02, 2019

Study suggests eating less red and processed meat may not improve your health

Most of us have heard that red meat and processed meat is not great for your health and should only be consumed in small amounts.

But new guidelines published Tuesday in the Annals of Internal Medicine flip this long-held understanding on its head.

The new analysis was conducted by NutriRECS, an independent group of nutritionists and health researchers, who says its mission is to “produce trustworthy nutritional guideline recommendations based on the values, attitudes and preferences of patients and community members.”

NutriRECS determined that there’s “low- to very low-certainty evidence” that reducing red and processed meat consumption will reduce the risk for developing heart disease or dying from cancer.


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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby Rik Bitter » Wed Oct 02, 2019

tdtwedt wrote:Study suggests eating less red and processed meat may not improve your health

Most of us have heard that red meat and processed meat is not great for your health and should only be consumed in small amounts.

But new guidelines published Tuesday in the Annals of Internal Medicine flip this long-held understanding on its head.

The new analysis was conducted by NutriRECS, an independent group of nutritionists and health researchers, who says its mission is to “produce trustworthy nutritional guideline recommendations based on the values, attitudes and preferences of patients and community members.”

NutriRECS determined that there’s “low- to very low-certainty evidence” that reducing red and processed meat consumption will reduce the risk for developing heart disease or dying from cancer.


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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/eating- ... study.html



So mammal with forward looking eyes, incisors, canines and a digestive tract designed to break down animal proteins doesn't have any real problem with meat consumption?

Quelle surprise.
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby jcz1 » Wed Oct 02, 2019

The CNBC article is poorly researched. Although it does quote some sources in disagreement with the findings, it fails to dive deeply into the original methodology. Here is more context:

The NutriRECS researchers used a methodology called GRADE, which stands for the Grading of Recommendations, Assessment, Development and Evaluation.

GRADE was developed to "to reduce unnecessary confusion arising from multiple systems for grading evidence and recommendations" and is part of a new emphasis on "evidence-based" medicine. NutriRECS member Dr. Gordon Guyatt says he coined the term "evidence-based medicine" and helped develop GRADE.
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Critics point out the GRADE criteria is best suited to evaluate randomized clinical trials. It's not appropriate for lifestyle studies which cannot control variables in the experiment, they say, either because people won't follow the protocol (eat exactly what they are told to eat), or because it's unethical to do the experiment at all.

"We can't randomize people to smoke, avoid physical exercise, breathe polluted air or eat a lot of sugar or red meat and then follow them for 40 years to see if they die," said Stanford's Gardner. "But that doesn't mean you have no evidence. It just means you look at the evidence in a more sophisticated way."


https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/health/r ... index.html

Part of this is differing interpretations of the same risk:

Observers point out that the results NutriRECS found echo cancer risks established by other major health organizations -- risks those organizations considered significant enough to warn the public about the dangers of processed meat consumption.

"Translating the figures from the new research into the same terms as World Cancer Research Fund, they correspond to a relative risk of 18%, which is the same as World Cancer Research Fund's 2010 figure and bigger than their 2015 revised figure," said Kevin McConway, a UK professor of applied statistics who was not involved in the research.

That doesn't sound like a big risk unless you're one of the 18%.


The CNN article is much more in-depth. Here's more:

"The GRADE system believes in people's autonomy," said Guyatt, "and based on the low-quality evidence we found we believe the majority of fully informed people would choose to continue their current levels of red meat consumption if all they were considering is health issues."

McCullough disagrees. "It's kind of like saying: We know helmets can save lives, but some people still prefer the feeling of the wind in their hair. And let's face it, most people will be OK; they won't crash."

"But everyone agrees you should wear a helmet," she continued. "Indeed, when making recommendations public health organizations consider the full impact of an exposure on population health."

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby jcz1 » Tue Oct 22, 2019

So Pizza Hut is testing a fake meat sausage on a pizza, but the real sacrilege here is the new box! :shock:

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/22/business ... index.html

In other news, Dunkin' (we're not just donuts anymore!) is taking the Beyond Meat breakfast sammich national starting next month.

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby tdtwedt » Tue Oct 29, 2019

Beyond Meat shares plunge more than 20% despite solid results as insiders rush for the exits

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/29/beyond- ... exits.html

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby grantwoodisgold » Tue Oct 29, 2019



in the dna???
"SAUSAGE FLAVORED MEAT PELLETS, GRADE D BUT EDIBLE"
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby jcz1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019

Fri & Sat 11/8 & 11/9 - Free Beyond Breakfast sammich at Dunkin [Donuts]

Dunkin’ is celebrating the national launch with its first-ever, multi-day sandwich-tasting event. To give guests a chance to experience the great taste of this plant-based sausage for themselves, on Friday, November 8 and Saturday, November 9 from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m., guests at participating Dunkin’ U.S. restaurants are invited to enjoy a complimentary sample of the Beyond Sausage sammich, while supplies last.


https://news.dunkindonuts.com/news/rele ... 2882030941

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby iratebob » Fri Nov 08, 2019

Tried the Impossible burger last week at a chain called Hopdoddy.
First bite tasted like meat as I tried to figure out exactly what I was chewing
Third & Forth bites tasted less like meat
It was a combination of taste and consistancy.

Experiment over ...
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby jcz1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019

Burger King testing 3 new Impossible Burgers: a Whopper Jr (because the Whopper is too pricey), and an Impossible Burger and Cheeseburger for the kids menu (the first such burger on a national chain's kids menu). The expansion is likely due to a 5% increase in sales thanks at least in part to the Impossible Whopper.

https://www.insider.com/burger-king-tes ... us-2019-11

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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby iratebob » Tue Nov 12, 2019

What's actually in an impossible burger ....

Water
Soy-protein concentrate
Coconut oil
Sunflower oil
Natural flavors ????
Potato protein
Methylcellulose
Yeast extract
Cultured dextrose
Food starch, modified
Soy leghemoglobin
Salt
Soy-protein isolate
Mixed tocopherols (vitamin E)
Zinc gluconate
Thiamine hydrochloride (Vitamin B1)
Sodium ascorbate (vitamin C)
Niacin
Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6)
Riboflavin (vitamin B2)
Vitamin B12
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Re: Any Vegetarians here?

Postby silverhead » Tue Nov 12, 2019

iratebob wrote:What's actually in an impossible burger ....

Water
Soy-protein concentrate
Coconut oil
Sunflower oil
Natural flavors ????
Potato protein
Methylcellulose
Yeast extract
Cultured dextrose
Food starch, modified
Soy leghemoglobin
Salt
Soy-protein isolate
Mixed tocopherols (vitamin E)
Zinc gluconate
Thiamine hydrochloride (Vitamin B1)
Sodium ascorbate (vitamin C)
Niacin
Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6)
Riboflavin (vitamin B2)
Vitamin B12


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